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Informations utiles pour les mages (En Anglais)

Message  Invité le Lun 5 Mai - 5:40

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Ahoy there, magesires! On the behest of Lord Beef and his majesty King Gurgthock I bring you this compository of all things magely!

I:Talent Specs

Fire spec is currently the top dps spec. While frost may theoretically exceed fire in a small number of cases, frost spec also depends on taking full advantage of the water elemental and cold snap to deliver its damage. It is also the only tree with no pushback resistance on the primary nuke. Because of these downsides, fire builds are much more likely to deliver their full payload of damage than a frost build. On the plus side, frost builds have immensely better options for mass snaring, slowing, and bursting on frozen targets. As such, frost may be the preferred spec for certain raid encounters (Illidan might be a good example).

Arcane spec offers the highest short duration burst damage of any spec through timers like Arcane Power and Presence of Mind, and can burn mana quickly into damage through Arcane Blast. Arcane talents also provide the highest possible AoE damage. However arcane damage spells have poor mana efficiency, and the tree is highly dependent on outside mana regeneration and encounter duration to sustain good dps. Sustained dps with Arcane Missiles lags a good 10-15% behind fire or frost dps, while Arcane Blast requires a restrictive gear setup to work. Because of these factors, Arcane builds are only recommended for expert mages whose particular raid situations allow them to employ good use of this spec.

Specific Builds:
2/48/11: Fire with Icy Veins. Best possible dps.

0/40/21: If you really need two Ice Blocks. This build is actually competitive for dps as well because it allows for two Icy Veins during Bloodlust.

10/48/3: Standard fire but no Icy Veins, Clearcasting instead. Used for better mana efficiency, but generally a poor choice compared to the first two fire options.

10/0/51: (or other frost variant): Deep Frost with winter's chill and Water Elemental. Very strong for guilds working on Kharazan or specific encounters that benefit from mage kiting skills. Scales poorly.

40/18/3: Arcane Blast with Fireball/Scorch.

40/0/21: Arcane Blast with Frostbolt, strongest 'arcane build' due to Icy Veins and Cold Snap.

48/0/13: Heavy Arcane with Icy Veins. This build benefits from itemization synergies because all spells used are Arcane spells, effectively lowering the effective hit cap by 7%. Unfortunately Arcane Missiles is poor dps, and while theorycraft has hinted at possible use for this spec, for the moment it is considered universally inferior to Arcane/Frost.

33/28: Arcane/Fire 'huge crit' build. This is a poor build that should never be used in raids.

II: Fire Spell Choice and Rotation

Effective Spell Arsenal: Fireball, Scorch, and Fire Blast. Fireball is the primary nuke, providing the best dps all around. Scorch is extremely mana efficient, and critical for applying the fire vulnerability debuff, but much lower dps than fireball. Fire Blast is an inefficient use of mana, but is an instant attack, giving it special use at certain times.

For fire mages, keeping up the Improved Scorch debuff is key to maintaining good dps. It is advantageous to have every fire mage assist in applying and maintaining the debuff, as it is in everyone's interest to do maximum dps. If at any time the debuff drops it will have to be applied 5 times over again, cutting into fireball time and reducing every fire mage's damage. The scorch debuff is so powerful that it is advantageous to apply on almost every mob. As a rule of thumb, anything that's going to last at least 10 seconds should be scorched first. It's also a good idea to scorch down the tail end of a mob's life (when fireballs will not reach the target before it dies), ending with a fire blast, so that the most damage possible is affected by Molten Fury. For the rest of the time dpsing, spamming 8 fireballs for every 1 scorch gives the maximum number of fireball hits while still maintaining the debuff. However, use common sense: if a boss ability may prevent you from casting at certain times, increase the number of scorches you cast to avoid the risk of losing the stack. 5 fireballs for every 1 scorch is a good rule for encounters with interruptions.

In general, timers should be popped immediately as long as agro isn't a concern, and used again immediately whenever the cooldown is up. The effect of stacking timers is often negligible, however stacking a significant number of powerful timers can have a great effect, and be worth saving your cooldown. If you have a shaman in your group, Bloodlust/Heroism should be saved for the end of the fight so that it can stack against Molten Fury. It's advantageous to save other timers such as Combustion, trinkets and Icy Veins to stack against this powerful combo, but don't save them for so long that you miss an entire cooldown cycle.

III: Frost Spell Choice and Rotation

Effective Spell Arsenal: Frostbolt, Fire Blast, Ice Lance. Frostbolt is the primary nuke, providing the best dps all around. Fire Blast is a mana inefficient nuke, but is useful as an instant attack. Ice Lance is useless damage against anything that's not frozen, but will refresh the winter's chill debuff if it hits.

Frostbolt. Know it, love it. Cast fire blast during movement, but otherwise frostbolt constantly for best dps. Frostbolt will apply the winter's chill stack on its own, and maintain it, but keeping it up for an entire fight can be difficult due to its 15 second duration. An ice lance hit will immediately refresh the stack, and can be useful while moving or otherwise unable to deliver a full frostbolt. Do not use ice lance to put up the initial stack of winter's chill, the massive difference in damage makes it unwise to ever use ice lance when a frostbolt could be used in its place.

Timing the water elemental is crucial to maintaining good dps. As frost, the water elemental should account for upwards of 10-15% of your overall damage, possibly more. However, the water elemental has extremely low health, and no avoidance abilities, making it susceptible to almost any AoE. If possible, time water elemental summons to maximize the chance that it will stay alive for its full duration. Remember that water elemental bolts benefit from winter's chill, so it's a good idea to wait until winter's chill is applied before the first summon. Stacking timers against the water elemental is overall not important, with the major exception of bloodlust. Summon a water elemental right before Bloodlust is activated, it will not get the effect unless the pet is active while the spell is cast. If you have a shadow priest, the water elemental will not run out of mana. Be sure to use cold snap to summon an extra water elemental at some point during the fight and do even more damage.

IV: Arcane Spell Choice and Rotation

Effective Spell Arsenal: Arcane Missiles, Arcane Blast, Fire Blast, and (Fireball/Scorch or Frostbolt). Arcane Blast is the highest dps spell in the game when ramped fully, but has terrible mana efficiency. Conversely the first (and only the first) cast of Arcane Blast has the best mana efficiency of any spell. Arcane Missiles is a weak primary nuke with a high rate of fire. Scorch, Fireball and Frostbolt are filler nukes for rotations in order to give the Arcane Blast debuff enough time to reset. Fire Blast is a mana inefficient nuke, but is useful as an instant attack.

Arcane rotations have been depecrated due to their issues (for more infomation see below), while a simple Arcane Blast spam alternated with secondary nuke spam method is emerging in theorycraft as a possible contender for good dps. This follows the 2-cycle theorem of spell selection, alternating between a mana intensive burn mode and a mana efficient mode. Arcane Blast spam is the burn mode cycle, whereas alternating between Frostbolt (or other secondary nuke) and a single Arcane Blast is the mana efficient cycle. This works because the first cast of Arcane Blast is extremely mana efficient, but cannot be used more than once every 8 seconds. An overlap cycle (covered below) with 1 Arcane Blast per rotation is very effective as an efficiency cycle.

Recent changes in the 2.4 patch, particularly the buff to spell haste and complete reworking of the mana regeneration formula, have resulted in a significant boost in theoretical arcane damage output. However, overall Arcane is more dependent on outside factors and still provides slightly less single-target dps than fire builds. There are a few valid reasons to consider Arcane spec:

1) You are threat capped, unable to deliver your full damage as fire due to threat constraints.

2) You are working on an encounter which benefits from controlled throughput, or sustained AoE damage, significantly increasing your dps for one period of the encounter while decreasing dps during the other period.

3) Itemization issues, for example if you are unable to acquire enough hit rating for Fire spec.

4) Raid composition. For example if you benefit from a shadow priest and do not benefit from Curse of the Elements, but still benefit from Curse of Shadows.

5) Survivability. Two ice blocks via cold snap is a non-trivial advantage for several encounters. Dropping playing with fire is a small buff to survivability as well.

In all cases you should use a spreadsheet or other theorycrafting tool to compare spec for your gear level and particular raid setup. More theorycraft is still being done in this area.

Arcane rotations (now outdated) will be covered briefly in this section for informational purposes. Arcane Blast applies a debuff to the user that stacks up to 3 times and increases casting speed and mana cost with each stack. Simply spamming the spell will render the caster oom in an extremely short time. The goal of an arcane blast cycle is to constantly reset the debuff, taking advantage of both fast, mana inefficient blasts and long, mana efficient blasts. However, the arcane blast debuff lasts 8 seconds, meaning other spells are needed to fill in the time to allow the debuff to reset. There are several ways to accomplish this, however triple frostbolt, or a combination of fireballs and a scorch, are generally the best ways to use the debuff time (if you spec accordingly for those spells). Arcane Missiles and a Scorch can also be used, but is not recommended due to the poor dps scaling of Arcane Missiles. You can start casting arcane blast slightly before the debuff has run out; as long as the debuff is gone by the time the spell completes, the stack will start over and you will not be charged the additional mana cost.

Please note that arcane spell cycles are of questionable value for sustained dps and are subject to many factors which can negatively influence dps. For example, Bloodlust or other haste procs can interfere with cycle timing. Boss abilities can interfere heavily with cycle timing. Latency may cause Arcane Blast to not update it's increased casting speed before the next cast. Arcane cycles are no longer recommended over simpler, more predictable nuke spamming.

V: Gear and Stat Choices

Spell hit rating is the best stat you can get, by a large margin. All spell casts use a 2 roll system, which means they must hit before they can crit or partial resist. Additionally, only 12.6 hit rating is required to add 1% hit chance with spells. Because of this, spell hit rating is, point for point, almost 3 times better than spell crit rating. The base chance for any spell to resist, before talents, is 83% against a boss level mob (+3 levels). Any talent that describes itself as "reducing the opponents chance to resist" increases your chance to hit. Beyond that, gear can be used to improve your hit chance to a maximum of 99%. Once you reach the 99% hit mark, further hit rating is completely useless and you considered "capped". For arcane mages, the cap is 76 rating. For fire and frost mages, that number is 164 rating. With rare exceptions, gearing below the hit cap will almost assuredly result in a loss of potential dps.

The following is a list of all mage stats in order of effectiveness (for fire spec):

spell hit rating (to cap) > spell haste rating > spell damage > spell crit rating > spell penetration

Arcane mages follow a slightly different scale:

spell hit rating (to cap) > spell damage > intellect > spell crit rating > spell haste > spell penetration

Arcane mages gain little from spell haste because they are already using up their entire mana pool, therefore gain much more benefit from stats that increase dpm. Every stat increases dpm except for spell haste. The new mana regeneration formula released in 2.4 greatly increases the value of intellect, making it a viable secondary stat for Arcane specs only.

Spell penetration is of almost no value at all, it's primarily a pvp stat. Spell crit rating tends to come prepackaged on a lot of gear, but is generally not a desirable stat because it takes a monstrous 22.1 points of it to give a 1% increase to crit rate. In all cases, check the gear against a spreadsheet or other theorycrafting tool to see how effective it is, as varying stat values can often make the differences between gear exceedingly difficult to eyeball.

Meta gems: Chaotic Skyfire Diamond is far and away the best meta gem for mages. Mystical Skyfire Diamond used to be a good contender, but was nerfed heavily in the 2.4 patch.[b]


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Message  Invité le Lun 5 Mai - 5:41


It's recommended for all mages to invest 2 points in Arcane Subtlety, reducing arcane spell threat by 40%. This makes arcane explosion the lowest threat per damage of any aoe spell in the game. Spamming arcane explosion is typically the most effective way of doing aoe dps because of its low threat generation; you can often start AoE much sooner than other classes and gain a massive damage lead. Avoid using frontal cone spells like Dragon's Breath and Cone of Cold for straight damage, as their limited frontal range arc will often his less targets than a circular area effect like Arcane Explosion or Blast Wave.

Not all AoE is done by tanking, however. In the case of shorter burst AoE phases, it may be best to focus on mass snaring with Cone of Cold and Frost Nova. Warlocks can potentially hold agro from range with Seed of Corruption, while mages snare the mobs and spam low threat Arcane Explosions, resulting in a quick and clean AoE clear.

VII: Partial Resists and Binary Spells

For every level above the caster, a mob gains an effective 8 magic resistance against all magic schools. This means a level 73 mob will have an effective 24 magic resistance against any player. It's important to note that this level based magic resist cannot be overcome or removed in any way, not even by spell penetration. It's estimated that partial resists caused by level based magic resistance account for a 6% loss in overall damage for fire spells.

Frostbolt, however, is a binary spell, meaning it has special rules regarding magic resist. A binary spell can only hit or miss; it will not ever partially resist. Because of this, frostbolt is completely unaffected by level based magic resist. We're not exactly sure why this occurs, but frost mages almost always see a 99% hit rate on frostbolt (assuming they are hit capped like they should be). Therefore the 6% damage reduction can be completely ignored. This does not mean that frostbolt does more damage than fireball; it is only another consideration that has been made when comparing specs and theorycrafting.

VIII: Tools, Utilities, and other Information

Vontre's Mage DPS Spreadsheet by Vontre
Full-featured spreadsheet primarly for gear and stat comparison.
Vontre's Mage DPS Spreadsheet by Vontre
Pseudo-simulation tool with extremely detailed output and advanced logic used for spec and rotation comparison.

Rawr.mage by Kavan
Gear and stat comparison tool written in C#
Rawr - Release: Rawr.Mage b2


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Message  izuko le Lun 5 Mai - 12:04

pas mal la parti AOE sa peut évité de mourir a chaque coup.... enfin c'est les demo qui vont crever a notre place Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

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Message  scottwill le Lun 5 Mai - 12:17

Buuuh c'est en anglais Sad


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